From: | "Bruce-Sean Reshen" <reshen@mindspring.com> |
Date: | 25 Oct 2006 00:41:45 -0000 |
Reply: | cpeo-brownfields |
Subject: | RE: [CPEO-BIF] Petoskey Pointe (MI) tax credit debate |
Robert Paterson's recent comments raise several interesting issues. The first issue raised is "Why give a subsidy if the benefits are already positive?" The supposition behind such a question is that any positive benefit to an individual is better than zero benefit, so why subsidize that individual at all. The answer (most appropriate to entry level economics courses) is that the individual has an array of choices each yielding a certain rate of return. A rational individual will, all other things being equal, choose the highest rate of return offered. (Note that the gross returns may all be thought of as involving a risk component; in turn, yielding a net risk-weighted rate of return.) If we wish to influence the individual to choose what we regard as the socially optimal choice, then the amount of the subsidy should be the difference between the individual's highest potential rate of return minus the rate of return on the activity we wish the individual to engage in. For example, if the individual could receive 12% and our socially optimal activity yields 4%, then we must pay the individual a subsidy of 8% if we want that individual to choose our desired activity. It is also true that if the individual's other choice is 2%, then it is unnecessary to subsidize the individual at all. In fact, in this second example It is sophomoric to believe that any time a given return is positive that it is unnecessary to offer a subsidy. It is only true in a totalitarian society where the individual has no other choice available. The second issue concerns the writer's assumption that "we" have a "right" to demand a "payoff" to society commensurate with the amount of the subsidy. I agree that on a given project, society (as interpreted, hopefully, through some democratic decision-making procedure) can demand that a developer do "good" for society. I interpret this as meaning the developer should provide some social benefits equal to the amount of the subsidy. However, we realize from the above analysis that the subsidy is an amount that makes the developer "whole" in terms of the achievable market rates of return on alternative available projects. Thus, if we want the developer to do more, we must further increase the subsidy to adequately compensate the developer. The real question is not whether or not to subsidize the developer, but what is the correct amount of the subsidy, given the developer's available alternative returns on competing projects. Society has every right to be certain that it is not wantonly subsidizing projects beyond what is necessary to attract the developer to what society deems is a socially important project. Bruce-Sean Reshen p. 203-259-1850 c. 917-757-5925 -----Original Message----- From: brownfields-bounces@list.cpeo.org [mailto:brownfields-bounces@list.cpeo.org] On Behalf Of Robert Paterson Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2006 4:16 PM To: lsiegel@cpeo.org; 'Brownfields Internet Forum' Subject: RE: [CPEO-BIF] Petoskey Pointe (MI) tax credit debate The larger question is what we demand of sites that realize substantial brownfield subsidy benefit...the payoff to society for the subsidy should be on par with the benefits given...if we simply boost a developer's rate of return from 18 to 29% how is society served? The opportunity costs of those subsidies are not inconsequential...perhaps a better use of foregone revenue would be to reduce illiteracy, enhance job training or expand social work efforts....perhaps a more refined question is whether we are dealing with positive or negative value sites? If it is a positive value site, why allow a subsidy at all? Of course the whole cost/benefit analysis for the use of public subsidies has been trashed in prior studies on land development decision making (basically non-existent for most cities)...so why should brownfields be any different...because we sell it as "sustainable development" My feeling is we need to establish better benchmarks to get public subsidies, along the lines of a LEEDs certification process, where subsidies are tied to auxiliary benefits to society....we need to make sure its not feeding at the "pork barrel" trough...my 2 cents....... Bob Robert G. Paterson Associate Professor Co-Director, Center for Sustainable Development 1 University Station B7500 School of Architecture The University of Texas Austin TX 78712-1160 512-471-0734 Fax 512-471-0716 rgfp@mail.utexas.edu Whatever befalls the earth Befalls the sons and daughters Of the earth. We did not weave the web of life; We are merely a strand in it. Whatever we do to the web. 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Thank you. -----Original Message----- From: brownfields-bounces@list.cpeo.org [mailto:brownfields-bounces@list.cpeo.org] On Behalf Of Lenny Siegel Sent: Monday, October 09, 2006 10:15 AM To: Brownfields Internet Forum Subject: [CPEO-BIF] Petoskey Pointe (MI) tax credit debate [I expect this issue to come up more and more: Are Brownfields subsidies for development in general, or are they targeted at properties with significant environmentally impairments? - LS] Allen supports review of $4.5 million tax credit request By CRAIG McCOOL Traverse City Record Eagle (MI) October 8, 2006 PETOSKEY - A state lawmaker said he is "very concerned" that developers behind a downtown project cited inaccurate information on an application worth millions in brownfield tax credits. Sen. Jason Allen, R-Traverse City, supports a complete review of Petoskey Pointe developers' application for a $4.5 million tax credit, awarded in June by the Michigan Economic Development Corporation. "Clearly, it's an oversight issue between the (Department of Environmental Quality) and the MEDC. I think it's appropriate for them to take full review of the problems that are going on," Allen said. ... For the entire article, see http://www.record-eagle.com/2006/oct/08pointe.htm -- Lenny Siegel Director, Center for Public Environmental Oversight c/o PSC, 278-A Hope St., Mountain View, CA 94041 Voice: 650/961-8918 or 650/969-1545 Fax: 650/961-8918 <lsiegel@cpeo.org> http://www.cpeo.org _______________________________________________ Brownfields mailing list Brownfields@list.cpeo.org http://www.cpeo.org/mailman/listinfo/brownfields _______________________________________________ Brownfields mailing list Brownfields@list.cpeo.org http://www.cpeo.org/mailman/listinfo/brownfields _______________________________________________ Brownfields mailing list Brownfields@list.cpeo.org http://www.cpeo.org/mailman/listinfo/brownfields |
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