From: | "Bruce-Sean Reshen" <reshen@mindspring.com> |
Date: | 26 Oct 2006 18:47:51 -0000 |
Reply: | cpeo-brownfields |
Subject: | RE: [CPEO-BIF] incentive evaluation and subsidies |
Kris, Did any of your studies indicate a preferred methodology for examining the issue of determining an optimum subsidy amount? What were developer preferences in terms of in-kind payments such as liability protection versus direct subsidy payments? My experience and analysis lead me to conclude that developers always prefer direct payments. I believe what is required to improve our knowledge is a study focused on the agencies granting the subsidies. The key questions would be: (A) How do they determine what the appropriate and fair subsidy should be on a given project, and (B) What form of subsidy leads to optimal public benefits? Anyone interested? Bruce-Sean Reshen p. 203-259-1850 c. 917-757-5925 -----Original Message----- From: brownfields-bounces@list.cpeo.org [mailto:brownfields-bounces@list.cpeo.org] On Behalf Of Kris Wernstedt Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 8:04 AM To: brownfields@list.cpeo.org Subject: [CPEO-BIF] incentive evaluation and subsidies Bob and Gang, A few years ago, Kate Probst and I helped to put together an EPA-funded workshop that looked at community impacts from reusing contaminated properties (www.rff.org/sitereuse). As part of the workshop, we wrote a paper that summarized about a dozen "studies" or databases that presented info on jobs, tax revenues, leveraging, and other impacts from reuse (http://yosemite.epa.gov/EE/epa/eed.nsf/ffb05b5f4a2cf40985256d2d00740681 /ba2 2be2fe6866d5d85256eaf0053aee9/$FILE/2004-06.pdf). None of them grappled fully with the issues you've noted and some certainly were more nice smelling smoke than rigorous analyses. On another EPA-supported project, headed by Peter Meyer, several of us looked at the subsidy issue that you and Bruce stimulated this nice discussion with. Without going into the gory details, we surveyed over 300 hundred private developers about the value of public interventions for reducing risk--by providing liability protections, for example--as an alternative to subsidizing returns. www.nvc.vt.edu/uap/docs/KrisWPubs/1-Wernstedt&Meyer&Alberini_JPAM2006.pd f provides a more or less readable academic paper on that study. Kris ************************************* Kris Wernstedt Urban Affairs and Planning Virginia Polytechnic Institute and State University Alexandria Center 1021 Prince Street, Suite 200 Alexandria, Virginia 22314 703-706-8132 (voice), 703-518-8009 (fax) krisw@vt.edu ************************************* -----Original Message----- From: brownfields-bounces@list.cpeo.org [mailto:brownfields-bounces@list.cpeo.org] On Behalf Of Robert Paterson Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2006 2:54 PM To: 'Frink, Neal'; 'Bruce-Sean Reshen'; lsiegel@cpeo.org; 'Brownfields Internet Forum' Subject: RE: [CPEO-BIF] Petoskey Pointe (MI) tax credit debate I agree with your call for the classic "feedback loop," that ever necessary element of learning from experience that unfortunately is not well done in the public sector. Public agency resistance to performance measurement has proven difficult ever since the reinventing government took off in the 1990s. No one wants a report card, and the public sector doesn't reward learning from experience very well in practice--so that makes this idea difficult at best. Keep in mind, for example, the great "studies" done by cities and Rouse Inc on the benefits of "festival marketplace" projects...Rouse development would present these glowing job creation numbers to justify massive subsidy packages, of course subsequent academic studies showed that most of the attributed long term "job creation" was a smoke screen, in point of fact, many Rouse projects simply moved retail activity from one part of the metro region to another. Only the few Rouse projects that had monopoly location advantage really were "true" job generators...so from a brownfields standpoint--feedback to learn from experience would be great, but it needs to be more than just "fluff" numbers or other such baloney...it would require work by our Environmental Finance centers and other academic institutions to put together program evaluation efforts that could pass academic standards for quality research. It needs to be more than just checklists and bean counting of fictitious net job creation, it needs to really measure and evaluate what matters and that means conducting research with our economists friends that is of high quality. Bob Robert G. Paterson Associate Professor Co-Director, Center for Sustainable Development 1 University Station B7500 School of Architecture The University of Texas Austin TX 78712-1160 512-471-0734 Fax 512-471-0716 rgfp@mail.utexas.edu _______________________________________________ Brownfields mailing list Brownfields@list.cpeo.org http://www.cpeo.org/mailman/listinfo/brownfields _______________________________________________ Brownfields mailing list Brownfields@list.cpeo.org http://www.cpeo.org/mailman/listinfo/brownfields |
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