From: | "Robert Paterson" <rgfp@mail.utexas.edu> |
Date: | 2 Nov 2006 07:13:36 -0000 |
Reply: | cpeo-brownfields |
Subject: | RE: [CPEO-BIF] Re: Re-Working the Thinking on Brownfields Subsidies |
Okay Bruce, I agree I'm not terribly fond of LEEDs either--it is completely lacking in social justice elements, has a poor weighting system and has problems in implementation to be sure--but what I was pondering with that thread is how to reasonably "operationalize accountability" for subsidies (taking into account comments from Ignacio on the feasibility of localities doing such things). Localities have never been good at "evaluation," so how could we make this tractable for them? The point system might have a baseline objective of basic market correction/equalization, and then, yes offer more points for more non-market amenities that are desired........ how might a locality estimate what was needed in the single developer scenario? Clearly we know ways to estimate stigma impacts, clean up costs etc., but is this reasonable to ask of locals? Maybe this is the focus of the chat at the National Conference? Bob -----Original Message----- From: Bruce-Sean Reshen [mailto:reshen@mindspring.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2006 7:48 PM To: 'Robert Paterson'; 'Trilling, Barry'; 'Peter B. Meyer'; brownfields@list.cpeo.org Subject: RE: [CPEO-BIF] Re: Re-Working the Thinking on Brownfields Subsidies Bob and all, I believe Bob this all started two weeks ago when I responded to several of your comments. Perhaps it is fitting then that we begin the next round. Your suggestions for the use of LEEDS Certification type rewards as the basis for subsidies, misconstrues the purpose of subsidies. A true subsidy should only be utilized where the developer's expected rate of return is below the market level and insufficient to entice that developer to develop the brownfield site. If we wish to develop a bonus system to reward the developer for adding other non-market societal benefits, that is fine. I stress "non-market" because if the items would help the developer to gain greater profits, then there is no need to reward that developer. But the pure subsidy that results from a brownfield project's below market rate of return should never be the subject of a clawback. I also note that the LEEDS system is not one we should emulate. It is full of inconsistencies and allows for such a wide range of projects receiving the designation, that it is all but useless as a guide to public benefits. Many of those participating in this discussion seem to have a misconception about the development process. A developer must receive numerous permits and approvals before beginning a project. Those approvals almost always involve conditions that the developer would have preferred to avoid. But that is part of the process. In the end, a developer will calculate his expected rate of return, adjusted for risk and uncertainty, and then decide if the project should go forward. Prior to those negotiations the individual developer typically competes with several other developers in bidding for the project. Thus the development agency has to choose from among the group of developers based numerous factors including most prominently the developer's vision for the site, the amount and types of social amenities, the degree to which the developer meet the agency's criteria for the project, the developer's financial backing and general reputation. At every step the developer is faced with the competition from others for the project. If that developer still submits a bid that involves an outright subsidy, then the agency has a firm basis for evaluating the rationale for the subsidy. The only case where this would not be true would be if there was only one developer as part of the process. In that case the agency must gather market data and evaluate the propriety of that subsidy in a more indirect manner. The agency must also evaluate the importance of the project, its other benefits to the working community and its overall role in the revitalization process. Since Peter is now back from Europe, I believe it is fair to respond to his last missive. He suggests that since the average local government jurisdiction has a population of 2,000-3,000 people, they can't possibly gain the expertise to evaluate subsidies. Fortunately the overwhelming number of brownfield projects are in locals that have much larger populations, probably in the range of 50,000 to several million people, and they do have the resources and intelligence to make wise decisions. That does not mean they will always make a reasonable decision, but they do have the capacity to do so. More often than not, it is political rather than economic decisions that skew the appropriateness of the result. Neither does common sense require that a town "optimize" their decision in some mathematical sense, only that they fairly weigh the alternatives and are able to reasonably defend their decision. Good try Peter but your straw case will not work. I believe Barry and Lee have already addressed the other clawback issues. I would only add that Peter's other straw case of a city giving away subsidies on a first come- first serve basis, has little basis in reality and is not something that anyone is suggesting. It makes for an inappropriate model for decision-making and a poor example of public policy. But I did enjoy reading it Peter. Finally, Peter attributes to Barry a concept of "balancing out" subsidies after the fact. I will let Barry speak for himself, but the only balancing of subsidies that is required, is to give a developer sufficient amounts to induce the developer to build the project. Any other rewards, post project completion, have nothing at all to do with our discussion of pure subsidies. Let the discussion resume! Bruce Bruce-Sean Reshen CEO, The MGP Group 733 Summer Street - Suite 405 Stamford, CT 06901 p. 203-327-2888, X18 f. 203-327-2999 c. 917-757-5925 breshen@mgppartners.com www.theguardiantrust.org www.mgppartners.com _______________________________________________ Brownfields mailing list Brownfields@list.cpeo.org http://www.cpeo.org/mailman/listinfo/brownfields | |
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