From: | Lenny Siegel <lennysiegel@gmail.com> |
Date: | 23 Jul 2007 06:27:44 -0000 |
Reply: | cpeo-brownfields |
Subject: | [Fwd: RE: [Fwd: RE: [CPEO-BIF] Brownfield Subsidies]] |
Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2007 From: Lydia Tan <ltan@bridgehousing.com> Tax Credits work well for tax paying private developers, but given that much of the equity that is invested in these larger scale developments (at least in California) comes from pension funds (who don't pay taxes), tax credits are not as powerful a tool across the board as an outright grant to a developer. Lydia Tan Executive Vice President BRIDGE Housing Corporation 345 Spear Street, Ste 700 San Francisco, CA 94105 415.989.1111 -----Original Message----- From: brownfields-bounces@list.cpeo.org [mailto:brownfields-bounces@list.cpeo.org] On Behalf Of Lenny Siegel Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2007 11:37 PM To: Brownfields Internet Forum Subject: [Fwd: RE: [CPEO-BIF] Brownfield Subsidies] Ignacio wrote a few replies to my earlier query. With his permission, I am sending one of them out to the list. I think it's useful to our current discussion. He warns, however, that this is a simplified, incomplete response and reminds us that the New York state tax credit is totally different that tax increment financing. Lenny Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2007 From: Ignacio Dayrit <idayrit@ci.emeryville.ca.us> Fiscal impact analysis is routinely done in large development agreement projects in CA. The impacts of the project are estimated based on the employment, traffic, other environmental impacts, cost of public services (est. of police, fire, school, recreation, parks, water, power, etc.). These can be costed out - cities have their own formulas. This is calculated against the benefits - taxes (business, property), fees, cash contributions (yes, many developments give subsidies but yet, give contribitions as well) and any multiplier effects. Then, of course, less the subsidies. The flow of subsidy (all cash vs. over time) may have an impact. You can calculate the difference in financial impact of the TIF area by simply comparing the tax distribution within and outside the TIF. I.e., the TIF may distribute taxes by 50% TIF agency, 25% city, 10% school, 10% transit district, 5% community college, vs the non-TIF area would have distributed 35% city, 20% school, 15% transit, 10% comm college, 5% park district, xx% other special tax districts). Housing funds are typically included in the city or TIF agency pots. The kind of consultants that do this in CA include Keyser Marston, Economics Research Associates, Rosenow Spevacek, Applied Development Economics, Hausrath Associtaes, etc. My own 2 cents is that if a city wants to throw $ into any deal, call it what it is. Calling all of those subsidies a "brownfields tax credit" give brownfields subsidies a bad name. Portions of these are job creation, infrastructure, housing AND environmental subsidies. I figure it would have created too much political opposition if the subsidy was called too many things. Take care. -----Original Message----- From: brownfields-bounces@list.cpeo.org on behalf of LSchnapf@aol.com Sent: Fri 7/20/2007 7:44 PM To: brownfields@list.cpeo.org Subject: [CPEO-BIF] Brownfield Subsidies thanks all for your comments. Not being an economist, I was just wondering if there was some formula that can be applied to figure out the taxes that are likely to be thrown off by a project without going into a detailed study if the project results in a "net" benefit to the state as a whole. For example, if we know a developer will be building a $200 million project, arent there multipliers are other metrics that can be used to figure out the jobs created, income taxes generated, sales taxes from raw materials used and sale of condos, property taxes from the development, etc. This might simplistic but at least it presents an estimate of some of the benefits thrown off by a project that can offset the tax credit liability generated by the project. I do not think that the creation of an environmental fund for use by the state to acquire, remediate and then sell property to developers makes any sense. First, the state cannot cleanup as many sites as developers can and certainly not in the time frame required by the market. The Wollman Rink in Central Park was a perfect example. The City tried for years to get it reconstructed. Trump stepped in, hired contractors that were incentivized to complete the work within certain time periods (and without having to do the bidding procedures) and had the rink built in a year. When the state gets involved, the low bids frequently up with sloppy and sometimes tragic results like what happened with the Boston Harbor tunnel. Having done a numerous brownfield sites across the country either representing developers or lenders, my experience is that tax credits are the most efficient and fastest way to redevelop contaminated properties. Loans and grants may be ok for local governments to perform assessments but tax credits work great for developers since they dont have to deal with bureaucratic delays and inadequate staffing, and the developers along with their contractors are incentivized to get the project done quickly so they can then file for their financial benefits. Also, there was a comment about subsidies and trivial level contamination. Regulators and environmental professionals may view some amounts of contamination as trivial but contamination still sends shudders through the development and lending community because of the cost and timing uncertainty. Despite liability reforms, many developers are still nervous about touching even slightly contaminated properties. I've been involved in situations where I have spent more than a year explaining the benefits of a state brownfield program before a client was willing to pull the trigger on a project. These projects are viewed as risky and high risk money demands high rewards. With construction costs increasing 5-10% a month, any delays can have devastating effects on the rate of return and make projects uneconomical. And of course, it seems each year we become concerned about more types of chemicals at ever lower levels of exposure. Thus, I would never underestimate the impact of "trivial" amounts of contamination at a site or the incentives needed to convince developers to take a risk on a contaminated property instead of a nice undeveloped parcel or land with a fairly benign use. Larry Lawrence Schnapf 55 E.87th Street #8B/8C New York, NY 10128 212-876-3189 (h) 212-756-2205 (w) 212-593-5955 (f) 203-263-5212 (weekend) www.environmental-law.net ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour -- Lenny Siegel Director, Center for Public Environmental Oversight c/o PSC, 278-A Hope St., Mountain View, CA 94041 Voice: 650/961-8918 or 650/969-1545 Fax: 650/961-8918 <lsiegel@cpeo.org> http://www.cpeo.org _______________________________________________ Brownfields mailing list Brownfields@list.cpeo.org http://www.cpeo.org/mailman/listinfo/brownfields -- Lenny Siegel Director, Center for Public Environmental Oversight c/o PSC, 278-A Hope St., Mountain View, CA 94041 Voice: 650/961-8918 or 650/969-1545 Fax: 650/961-8918 <lsiegel@cpeo.org> http://www.cpeo.org _______________________________________________ Brownfields mailing list Brownfields@list.cpeo.org http://www.cpeo.org/mailman/listinfo/brownfields |
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