From: | "Schnapf, Lawrence" <Lawrence.Schnapf@srz.com> |
Date: | Mon, 27 Apr 2009 16:26:47 -0700 (PDT) |
Reply: | cpeo-brownfields |
Subject: | Re: [CPEO-BIF] [Fwd: RE: When. where, and how? - continuing the debate] |
Apropos of our discussion, see below the article from the Chicago Tribune about tightening up reporting "loopholes" www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/chi-crestwood-right-to-know-apr27,0,38 32486.story Illinois to plug holes in water pollution law Revised law may specify who gets warned and when By Michael Hawthorne Tribune reporter April 27, 2009 Ann Muniz would like to forget the days of drinking bottled water and taking short showers with the windows open. Health officials suggested taking those unusual steps eight years ago when they told Muniz and nearly 750 other homeowners in an unincorporated area near Downers Grove that their private wells were contaminated with cancer-causing chemicals. In an ordeal similar to what Crestwood residents are now experiencing, the state had known years earlier about toxic pollution seeping into the water supply but didn't notify residents at the time. The lack of action in Muniz's neighborhood prompted the Illinois legislature in 2005 to unanimously approve a right-to-know law that requires state officials to notify people if they live near a polluted site or if their tap water is contaminated. But as the Tribune reported April 19, the state did not tell Crestwood residents that it had ordered the village to shut off a contaminated well that had been in use for more than 20 years. Now, Gov. Pat Quinn and legislative leaders are vowing to fix an apparent weakness in the law, which they hailed as a national model four years ago. "It's very frustrating to know this is still happening," said Muniz, who drove to Springfield three times to tell lawmakers her story. "I know their pain and anger." When public water supplies are fouled by toxic pollutants, the law requires that municipal officials, not residents, be notified. But village officials already knew their municipal well was contaminated -- state officials had told them so in 1986 -- and continued to use it anyway. In response to the Tribune's investigation, Quinn and others vowed last week to ensure that state and local officials follow through on the intent of the law. They also are moving to make it a felony to mislead the public about the source of its water. "You would expect them to tell their constituents what's in the water they're drinking," said Senate President John Cullerton (D-Chicago), who sponsored the right-to-know measure. "If we need to amend the law to make it clear people should be notified, that's what we'll do." After the law took effect, the Illinois Environmental Protection Agency posted on its Web site examples of state officials issuing notifications or requiring polluters to do so. Under the heading "right-to-know legislation better informs Illinois citizens," the site notes that early notification can help people "make important decisions that may impact their families' health." One case the EPA highlighted involved radioactive tritium that had seeped into groundwater near the Braidwood nuclear power plant in Will County. The Tribune first reported in January 2006 that Exelon Nuclear had bought out a homeowner and offered to compensate others for any loss in home value because of the contamination. On at least a half-dozen occasions after that, Exelon and state officials sent notices to people living near the plant updating them on plans to clean up the area. "We moved fairly quickly on that one," said Kurt Neibergall, manager of the EPA's Office of Community Relations. "In many of these cases, we maybe don't have all of the answers, but we can get as much information as possible out there." Answers were difficult to find for Muniz and her neighbors in unincorporated Downers Grove. After they were told in 2001 that their wells were contaminated with trichloroethylene and perchloroethylene, two industrial solvents linked to cancer, they were advised by state health officials to avoid drinking tap water and to limit bathing in it. If they needed to take a shower, Muniz said, they were told to open the windows because the chemicals can easily become airborne when aerated. The neighborhood later was hooked up to treated Lake Michigan water and the wells were capped. But as the saga dragged on, it became clear that state and local officials had known about the contamination in the late 1980s and didn't inform people living nearby. "They always seemed to be looking for loopholes or excuses for not telling us what's going on," Muniz said. When the right-to-know legislation was signed into law in 2005, state officials vowed that what happened to Muniz and her neighbors wouldn't happen again. In Crestwood, village officials told state regulators in 1986 that they would use only treated Lake Michigan water from neighboring Alsip and the contaminated well would be turned on only in an emergency. But records show that Crestwood relied on well water for up to 20 percent of the village's water supply for some months. The well finally was shut off after the EPA tested the water again in 2007 and found it still was contaminated with chemicals related to perchloroethylene. But before the Tribune report, the only public hint of contaminated water in the area was an Aug. 13 news release from the Illinois Department of Public Health warning that private wells in the area might be polluted. State officials now say they are taking steps to avoid a repeat of what happened in Crestwood. "We think what these guys did is outrageous," said Doug Scott, director of the state EPA. "It can't be allowed to ever happen again." -----Original Message----- From: brownfields-bounces@lists.cpeo.org [mailto:brownfields-bounces@lists.cpeo.org] On Behalf Of Lenny Siegel Sent: Monday, April 27, 2009 7:04 PM To: Brownfields Internet Forum Subject: [CPEO-BIF] [Fwd: RE: When. where, and how? - continuing the debate] From: Robert Paterson <rgfp@mail.utexas.edu> To: 'Samford, Jerrold' <Jerry.Samford@troutmansanders.com>, <brownfields-bounces@lists.cpeo.org>, <lsiegel@cpeo.org> Maybe since I haven't had my afternoon coffee - I'm a little slow today - I'm not seeing where your points nullify Larry's proposal? I have long wished that there could be a "repository" of some kind for Phase I and Phase II reports, HOWEVER, that would be a very inappropriate idea from a liability standpoint. Consultants performing the Phase II work rightfully limit who can use their data and to what use it may be put. Any consultant who would willingly support a proposal to archive all phase II reports where the public could access them would not have any appreciation for the risks that would pose--I was under the impression in many states the Phase II and the remediation plans ARE public documents on file with the VCP program---if one followed the rules seems the extra liability is minimal----in such cases archival systems would be straightforward. What do you see as the additional liabilities to the environmental professional that followed "best practices" ?? Secondly, the person paying for the report should not want them archived either. Why should the data that they paid for be made freely available to someone else? If one successfully navigated a VCP process they are getting a rather substantial public benefit in the liability release - leaving the data and reports in full on file seems a fair trade and might reduce expenses and problems on adjoining sites in the future - reducing society's transaction costs as a whole is a worthwhile endeavor--- Thirdly, there is a significant issue with regard to timing of reporting of data to regulatory agencies. Depending upon how requirements are constructed, consultants need to be able to confirm initial findings, and clients need to make sure they have reached a comfort level with their processes before any reporting could even be considered. Again since this typically is coordinated already with a public agency - I don't see that the idea does not work-can you be more specific with an example??--The only exception would be identification of an imminent and substantial endangerment. Regardless of the intent of the proposal, the idea does not work. Bob Paterson UT-Austin SNIP>> -------------------------------------------- W. Jerrold Samford, P.G. Environmental Compliance Specialist Troutman Sanders, LLP 1001 Haxall Point Richmond, Virginia 23219 (804) 697-2225 (direct) (804) 698-6451 (fax) ~~~~~~~ Effective January 2009, Troutman Sanders will operate offices in Chicago, San Diego and Orange County, as well as have an expanded presence in Washington, DC as part of the addition of Ross, Dixon, and Bell LLP. Learn more at www.troutmansanders.com ~~~~~~~~~~~ This e-mail message and its attachments are for the sole use of the designated recipient(s). If you are not a designated recipient of this message, please notify the sender by replying to this message and delete or destroy all copies of this message and attachments. -----Original Message----- From: brownfields-bounces@lists.cpeo.org [mailto:brownfields-bounces@lists.cpeo.org] On Behalf Of Schnapf, Lawrence Sent: Monday, April 27, 2009 1:33 PM To: lsiegel@cpeo.org; Brownfields Internet Forum Subject: [CPEO-BIF] When. where, and how? - continuing the debate I would like to supplement Lenny's comments about AAI with my favorite rant about that rulemaking. I know Barry will vehemently argue against this but I believe that the AAI rule be amended to require: 1. Sampling be performed when a release or suspected release is identified in a phase 1. 2. The sampling results (and phase 2) should be disclosed to Spill Center and a national database created of all phase two reports. My rationale for this is multi-fold: A. If an owner is going to get liability protection it should at the very least determine if there is contamination at a site and disclose it to the regulator. This is in my opinion a minor burden in exchange for liability relief. Moreover, once the contamination is known to the regulator, a decision can be made to either use public money or pursue the responsible party. The purchaser would still be able to assert its defenses to liability. B. How can an owner claim they are exercising due care or appropriate care with respect to releases at a site if they do not go thru the trouble of finding out what contamination is present. Remember, AAI by its plain terms only requires identification of release, not further investigation. There was so suggestion in the preamble that sampling might be appropriate but I would have preferred a more affirmative statement be placed in the regulatory text. C. Talk about burdens, just think about the thousands of phase 2 reports that are done each year because prior phase 2 reports are not available. If there was a database of phase 2 reports, then local governments seeking to redevelop sites as well as private prospective purchasers would not have to spend needless sums repeating investigative work that was already done but that is not available for a plethora of legal and business reasons. I am certainly suggesting a new paradymn in how we approach contaminated sites but I would suggest that is far better than waiting another 30 years for market-driven brownfield or voluntary cleanup programs to whittle down our inventory of historically-contaminated sites. Larry -----Original Message----- From: brownfields-bounces@lists.cpeo.org [mailto:brownfields-bounces@lists.cpeo.org] On Behalf Of Lenny Siegel Sent: Monday, April 27, 2009 1:16 PM To: Brownfields Internet Forum Subject: [CPEO-BIF] When. where, and how? - continuing the debate To me the debate between compliance-based cleanup programs and voluntary programs is a question of WHEN and WHERE voluntary responses are appropriate, as well as what level of oversight and disclosure should apply to voluntary cleanups (HOW). The requirements applied to voluntary cleanup vary enormously among the states, and within some states, such as California, among programs. I support a tiered system of oversight, in which the level of government involvement is keyed to the complexity and severity of the site, as well as the exposure pathways and the receptors (such as schoolkids). Over the last decade or so, many sites across the country that merit more oversight have been addressed under voluntary programs, largely because environmental agencies have lacked the will or the resources to use their regulatory authority properly. I have seen problems at sites where: 1) Developers have escaped oversight by dividing up property. 2) Housing and schools are building on capped contamination. 3) Groundwater contamination is migrating off the development site, but the response has been focused only on that property. 4) Groundwater contamination is migrating onto the development site, but there is no cleanup upgradient. 5) Contaminated sediment is considered "off-property." I don't argue that every such site should be addressed under a Superfund or RCRA-type program. RATHER, THE DECISION ABOUT WHICH TIER OF OVERSIGHT IS REQUIRED SHOULD BE MADE BY THE REGULATORY AGENCY WITH FULL PUBLIC TRANSPARENCY. I remember when some of us on the All Appropriate Inquiries Negotiated Rulemaking Committee suggested that some form of public notice be required for environmental site assessments. Industry participants shuddered. One even warned that it would make it difficult for a manufacturer to close a plant without tipping off its employees. (Not a good argument, from my perspective!) But I don't think the neighbors and eventual occupants of redeveloping contaminated property should be kept in the dark. In my experience, their involvement in the oversight of a cleanup and redevelopment is the best guarantee that things will be done right. Community involvement may lead to better protection of public health, but it also may overcome bureaucratic conditions that government agencies want to impose. Initially, additional disclosure may discourage or slow some projects, but as transparency becomes routine I believe the public will recognize which sites are problematic and which are being addressed properly. For a few years now I have been trumpeting the success of the Voluntary Cleanup Advisory Board at the Gates Rubber Site in Denver. This site was addressed under Colorado's voluntary cleanup program, but with public oversight (as well as the developer's agreement to provide other public benefits) the community ended up promoting the project. A developer does not have to be a "bad apple" for a project to benefit from public scrutiny of its environmental strategy. 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