Re: [CPEO-BIF] The Superfund vs. Brownfields debate

["Henry, Clark" <ClarkH@BES.CI.PORTLAND.OR.US>]

We simply consider all those sites you describe below as brownfields and are actually the main focus for our program.  I agree that ignoring them does a huge disservice to the communities around them.   Too much attention is paid to sites converted from large failing industrial uses to new zoning designations that accommodate condominiums.  

Clark

Clark Henry
City of Portland
Portland Brownfield Program
(503) 823-5863 - office
(503) 823-5565 - fax
clarkh@bes.ci.portland.or.us 
www.brownfield.org
 


-----Original Message-----
From: brownfields-bounces@lists.cpeo.org [mailto:brownfields-bounces@lists.cpeo.org] On Behalf Of Peter Strauss
Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 1:54 AM
To: lsiegel@cpeo.org
Cc: 'brownfields@lists.cpeo.org'
Subject: Re: [CPEO-BIF] The Superfund vs. Brownfields debate

Lenny et al:

I think that you need to expand the universe of contaminated sites to get a full discussion of the concept of stigma attached to a property.  There are Superfund sites (NPL) that have a strong regulatory driver; there are brownfield sites that are designated and thus are likely known to the community (or at least there is some public disclosure) , and  there are contaminated sites that do not fall into either of these boxes: gasoline stations, properties with historical contamination which may or may not have a "compliance  
driven" cleanup, and the thousands of sites that dot our landscape   
that are known to exist, but no one is doing anything about them.   
Just think of all the dry cleaners or orphan plumes with no responsible party.

I say this because I think we would do a disservice to those communities that are left out of the said boxes.  I would guess that they make up the majority of contaminated sites.

Peter Strauss
On Sep 15, 2009, at 1:13 PM, Lenny Siegel wrote:

> I recently told Barry (Trilling) and Larry (Schnapf) that I consider 
> argument the highest form of learning, in the Talmudic tradition.
> They have both lived up to my expectations.
>
> We are taking this important debate, on disclosure requirements as 
> well as Superfund vs. Brownfields, to the National Brownfields 
> Conference. We  expect this to be a lively discussion, with diverse 
> perspectives to be offered from the floor.
>
> Voluntary (Brownfield) vs. Compliance-Based (Superfund, RCRA, etc.) 
> Cleanup
>
> Date: Tuesday, November 17, 2009, 4:00 PM - 5:15 PM
>
> Description
>
> The environmental cleanup universe in the United States is generally 
> divided between sites where property owners or developers conduct 
> voluntary cleanup and those where responsible parties or the 
> government address contamination under stricter oversight. Both models 
> have their place. When is each of these two models appropriate? Does 
> the Compliance model discourage development? Does the Voluntary model 
> adequately protect public health and the environment? Under either 
> model, are people who are impacted aware of the risks from exposure? 
> What are the costs of each approach?
> This panel stems from a discussion on the Center for Public 
> Environmental Oversight's Brownfields Internet Forum.
>
> Moderator: Lenny Siegel, CPEO
> Speaker: Lawrence Schnapf, Schulte Roth & Zabel
> Speaker: Barry Trilling, Wiggin and Dana
> Speaker: Julie Kilgore, Wasatch Environmental, Inc.
> Track Public Policy, Law, and Regulation
>
> --
>
>
> Lenny Siegel
> Executive Director, Center for Public Environmental Oversight a 
> project of the Pacific Studies Center 278-A Hope St., Mountain View, 
> CA 94041
> Voice: 650/961-8918 or 650/969-1545
> Fax: 650/961-8918
> <lsiegel@cpeo.org>
> http://www.cpeo.org
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Brownfields mailing list
> Brownfields@lists.cpeo.org
> http://lists.cpeo.org/listinfo.cgi/brownfields-cpeo.org

_______________________________________________
Brownfields mailing list
Brownfields@lists.cpeo.org
http://lists.cpeo.org/listinfo.cgi/brownfields-cpeo.org
_______________________________________________
Brownfields mailing list
Brownfields@lists.cpeo.org
http://lists.cpeo.org/listinfo.cgi/brownfields-cpeo.org