From: | "Bruce-Sean Reshen" <reshen@mindspring.com> |
Date: | 25 Oct 2006 15:51:16 -0000 |
Reply: | cpeo-brownfields |
Subject: | RE: [CPEO-BIF] Petoskey Pointe (MI) tax credit debate |
Bob, I agree with you that our area of disagreement is narrower than it would seem. The fundamental point I was stressing is that subsidies are not wrong in themselves. However, unnecessary subsidies are wasteful and misdirect "social" resources. As economists we learn that it is possible to measure market rates of return at a given time, provided there are other projects in development at the same time that are unsubsidized. While precise measurement is impossible, general ranges of market rates of return are attainable. The key to the process is that the developer must be willing to "open his books". If actual achieved rates of return prove to be well above the target market rate, then the developer should either return the subsidy pro rata or provide equivalent social development value. The willingness of developers to allow such a "look back", should be an absolute requirement of the process to protect society. An interesting further question is whether society should be willing to further subsidize a developer who does not achieve the target market rate of return. In fairness, if we require a "look back", it should allow either a positive or negative adjustment. The key point here is that one should not be outraged by the concept of subsidies in general. We both agree that over subsidizing a private developer is a waste of public resources. Likewise, I believe that under subsidizing that same developer makes no sense if we want to efficiently achieve our social goals (environmental cleanups, jobs, community revitalization). Much greater effort needs to be focused on the design and measurement of appropriate subsidy levels to achieve our public goals. Bruce p.s., My kind thanks to Peter Meyer for helping me to clarify these issues. Bruce-Sean Reshen CEO, The MGP Group 733 Summer Street - Suite 405 Stamford, CT 06901 203-327-2888, X18 email: breshen@mgppartners.com www.mgppartners.com www.theguardiantrust.org -----Original Message----- From: brownfields-bounces@list.cpeo.org [mailto:brownfields-bounces@list.cpeo.org] On Behalf Of Robert Paterson Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2006 10:02 AM To: 'Bruce-Sean Reshen'; lsiegel@cpeo.org; 'Brownfields Internet Forum' Subject: RE: [CPEO-BIF] Petoskey Pointe (MI) tax credit debate I don't think we disagree here, IMO based on economic development incentive programs across the US, not much "calculation" has gone into "packages" and in many cases (e.g., public stadia for example for private use) almost no serious B/C analysis with any sophistication is done at all....societal opportunity costs are real but often not recognized in any meaningful way as incentive packages are assembled. Not all brownfield sites need substantial public subsidy, and some get too much, which does translate into greater private profit at public expense (that subsidy might be better used for other social, economic and environmental programs elsewhere in the community with a greater societal return on investment), the question is how do we do a better job of assigning incentive packages where they are most needed? If others on the list are involved in such packaging, it would be interesting to hear what they have to say about "qualifying" sites for incentives (e.g., property tax abatements, TIF financing etc.,) and examples of where the package was not enough or too much? In their opinion.... Kind regards Bob Robert G. Paterson Associate Professor Co-Director, Center for Sustainable Development 1 University Station B7500 School of Architecture The University of Texas Austin TX 78712-1160 512-471-0734 Fax 512-471-0716 rgfp@mail.utexas.edu _______________________________________________ Brownfields mailing list Brownfields@list.cpeo.org http://www.cpeo.org/mailman/listinfo/brownfields _______________________________________________ Brownfields mailing list Brownfields@list.cpeo.org http://www.cpeo.org/mailman/listinfo/brownfields | |
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