2010 CPEO Brownfields List Archive

From: Peter Strauss <petestrauss1@comcast.net>
Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2010 12:18:45 -0800 (PST)
Reply: cpeo-brownfields
Subject: Re: [CPEO-BIF] Proposals for EPA's March 17 listening session
 
Barry:

With all due respect, you must know lawyers who are not competent to practice in specific areas, but are completely competent in others. An attorney who has done 30 years of work in tax could market himself to do real estate law. What would prevent him from doing so? Perhaps the problem lays equally with the purchaser of professional services and not merely with the purveyor.

My problem with Jerry's proposal is that he asks for competency in too many areas, especially for Phase 1 assessments. That is why in most cases "environmental professionals" pool together in teams (regulatory agencies, consulting firms). Is it important to have training in geochemistry, risk assessment and toxicology (beyond a very basic 101 understanding) to conduct a phase 1 assessment? In no way am I supporting shoddy work, but my impression is that the purpose of a Phase 1 (and please correct me if I am wrong) is to identify if there are any records or superficial evidence that may indicate a "potential" environmental hazard. Most of this involves good record searching and a trained eye. It is not rocket science. I don't need training in toxicology to know that if an UST containing a hazardous chemical is leaking (or has leaked) across the street, there is a potential problem. I would say that the most important skills for Phase 1 assessments are knowing how to use a computer and accessing records.

For Phase 2 licensure, I think that Jerry points out the areas of competency needed. Is it one individual or a corporation that possesses these skills? Conducting Phase 2 assessments is difficult for a sole practitioner.

Peter
On Mar 3, 2010, at 8:45 AM, Trilling, Barry wrote:

I disagree with Peter and would nominate Jerry for King, regardless of his ability to impersonate Bert Lahr as the cowardly lion. His suggestion would add add'l cost to transactions, but is definitely a step in the right direction. Much of the problem, as I've seen it from the viewpoint of a legal advisor reviewing environmental assessments, arises from the absence of a uniformly high standard of performance from the environmental professionals who have prepared the assessments. The uncritical acceptance of these assessments has led to many, if not most, of the problems about which both Lenny and Larry have complained.

As noted in previous discussions on this list-serve, the topic of EP qualifications was perhaps the most contentious issue confronted by our 25 member Advisory Committee Act committee that drafted the AAI regulation. Representatives from the engineering and geology communities fought hard for a very stringent standard, but faced considerable resistance primarily from government agencies and lending institutions that did not want to have to displace current environmental professionals or to suffer the cost that hiring more qualified professionals would entail. Experience has sadly demonstrated that the lending community in particular has sought to drive down the cost of Phase I studies to the point that many lenders choose not use the "high priced spread" and rely on providers whose work proves unreliable. See Dianne Crocker's excellent discussion at http://commonground.edrnet.com/posts/d347a7b39d .

Barry J. Trilling
W I G G I N  A N D  D A N A

-----Original Message-----
From: brownfields-bounces@lists.cpeo.org [mailto:brownfields-bounces@lists.cpeo.org ] On Behalf Of Peter Strauss
Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2010 2:08 AM
To: Samford, Jerrold
Cc: brownfields@lists.cpeo.org
Subject: Re: [CPEO-BIF] Proposals for EPA's March 17 listening session

God, no!  You ask for competency in too many skill sets for one
individual.  And who would you appoint as the judges of competency?

Glad you're not the king, although I like your Bert Lehr impression.

Peter Strauss
On Mar 2, 2010, at 6:53 PM, Samford, Jerrold wrote:

Using my best Bert Lahr impression, If I, If I.....were
kiiiiiinnnnnnnnng......

an Environmental Professional would have a State or Federal license
to practice in the field of environmental assessment. Non-
governmental licensure programs could be approved on a case-by-case
basis. The license would be based primarily on education and
experience in the field(s) of geology, geochemistry, environmental
regulation, data analysis, environmental risk analysis, toxicology,
and professional ethics. The licensure program would have an
allowance for applicants with alternative sets of experience to
petition for recognition based on their individual circumstances.

Licensure would be predicated on successful completion of an
examination of basic environmental investigation protocols.

Licensure for Phase I and Phase II work would be separate. Phase II
licensure would require more rigorous demonstration of competence in
geology, groundwater, geochemistry, environmental regulation, field
procedures and chemical data validation.

At the Federal level (maybe state, too) it would be interesting to
have a review board that could independently look at work performed
from a standard of care point of view and provide feedback to the
public regarding competence. That has lots of cans of worms
attached, but hey - I'm KING here!



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From: larry@schnapflaw.com [larry@schnapflaw.com]
Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 2010 1:18 PM
To: Samford, Jerrold; brownfields@lists.cpeo.org
Subject: Re:  [CPEO-BIF] Proposals for  EPA's March 17 listening
session

Hey Jerry,

if you were king, what would be your definition of an EP?

Larry
Law Office of Lawrence Schnapf
55 East 87th Street, Ste. 8B
New York, NY 10128
212-756-2205 (p)
212-593-5955 (f)
Larry@Schnapflaw.com
www.schnapflaw.com

-----Original Message-----
From: Samford, Jerrold [mailto:Jerry.Samford@troutmansanders.com]
Sent: Monday, March 1, 2010 07:18 PM
To: brownfields@lists.cpeo.org
Subject: Re: [CPEO-BIF] Proposals for EPA's March 17 listening session

I, too, would have liked to have seen more significant requirements
for what an "Environmental Professional" is. I have struggled with
that in a variety of forums (ASTM in particular has also struggled
mightily with the issue). Neither EPA nor ASTM were about to get
into the professional certification business, so reliance on
existing programs was the only option. We tried to limit the
designation to State licensed professionals, because at least with a
State licensure, if someone is found to have practiced outside his
or her area of expertise, the license can be revoked AND most
licensure programs have a requirement to protect human health and
the environment. That didn't fly, either. If there are examples we
can gather of unqualified "EP's" causing needless harm to human
health or the environment (or potentially just economic damage), we
might have a platform to revisit this. I would suspect it won't
happen. On the reporting end of things, one place we can and should
start is making sure that the reports that DO get to the regulatory
agencies - for whatever reason - are placed in a repository where
they can be obtained. Anyone who has a "reportable" issue, wants one
of the innocent landowner protections from the State or EPA, etc.
already sends in the report. Right now, even these are not readily
available unless you already know what you are looking for. Jerry
________________________________________ From: Larry Schnapf [lschnapf@aol.com
] Sent: Friday, February 26, 2010 2:38 PM To: Samford, Jerrold; brownfields@lists.cpeo.org
Subject: Re: [CPEO-BIF] Proposals for EPA's March 17 listening
session Jerry raises some good points as usual. I still think it
would be a great idea to have all phase 1 reports made a part of a
national database with an express understanding (execute a non-
reliance acknowledgment to gain access to the portal) that anyone
using the portal would have no reliance on the reports to avoid the
very understandable concern that someone would try to sue
consultants for failing to uncover something. The NJ LSRP program
essentially deputizes LSRPs so that they become agents of the state
and have a professional obligation to disclose certain environmental
information at risk of losing their certification. Now, this
obligation may not apply to run of the mill phase 1 performed by a
non-LSRP but something along that line for the universe of sites
that could be understood to pose a certain risk would be what I
would propose. I think this is another area where EPA missed the
boat on AAI. Besides having incredibly low threshold for EP, a
national licensing would have at least put the brakes on some of the
bottom feeding going on that is causing the quality of reports to
deterioate (unlike the braking problem with Toyotas-sorry couldnt
resist) :) I have noticed that Architects have a professional
obligation to minimize the impact of their work on the environment.
I find it interesting that consultants and attorneys do not have
such an ethical obligation though I think some states do impose some
obligations on PEs. Food for thought. Larry Larry Schnapf Law
Offices of Lawrence Schnapf 55 E.87th Street #8BNew York, NY 10128
212-756-2205 office 212-593-5955 fax www.environmental-law.net
website Blog: Visit Schnapf Judgment on the commonground community
at http://commonground.edrnet.com/resources/9d51c3f88e/summary
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-----Original Message----- From: Samford, Jerrold To: 'brownfields@lists.cpeo.org
' Sent: Fri, Feb 26, 2010 1:40 pm Subject: Re: [CPEO-BIF] Proposals
for EPA's March 17 listening session Just a quick comment on Larry's
point No. 1. Require sampling by whom? As a representative of
purchasers of property, If I discover a REC on a piece of property,
I should not be required to do anything about it. I can consummate
the deal with the information I have, I can decide not to do the
deal at all, or, I can elect to do some additional investigation. If
you mean the current owner of the property has to do the
investigating, there has to be a mechanism for that to get into the
regulator's hands, and the regulatory agency has to have enough
"hands" to apply some pressure, and a programmatic hook to latch
onto. I don't necessarily want to be required to submit my Phase I
to the regulators. I may well want to come back to this deal in a
year or two, and I may have very good business reasons for not
having public knowledge of my interest in a particular piece of
property. Very many of the RECs identified at a typical site don't
clearly fall within a regulatory program, and too many of the state
or local regulatory agencies don't have the time and manpower to
force anyone to investigate something not clearly a risk to human
health or the environment (and sometimes not even then). Now, as an
environmental professional, I'd love to have access to every Phase
I, Phase II, ... Phase XXXIV done on every piece of property. That
information would be valuable. Also as a consultant, I don't want
you to have my report if you were not my client. You are going to
use my report, make potentially bad decisions based on it, and try
to drag me into your lawsuit when you find something during
construction I didn't find during my work. Jerry.
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[mailto:brownfields-bounces@lists.cpeo.org] On Behalf Of LSchnapf@aol.com
Sent: Friday, February 26, 2010 11:07 AM To: BTrilling@wiggin.com; Paul@lqm.co.uk
; lsiegel@cpeo.org; brownfields@lists.cpeo.org Subject: [CPEO-BIF]
Proposals for EPA's March 17 listening session To avoid filling
people's email boxes (a problem we had last time), I will summarize
my recommendations below. The reasons and rationale Barry and I can
continue perhaps in another forum to prevent clogging people's
emails or at the listening section: Only the first recommendation
directly addresses AAI. The other two involve proposed programmatic
changes to CERCLA that are intended to promote transparancy and
enable the public to better learn the risks posed by sites in their
communities and participate earlier in the site investigation/
cleanup and prioritization process. 1. AAI- require sampling of RECs
that are identified as part of a Phase 1 and then require reporting
to regulatory agencies. If there is a purchaser, they can qualify as
a BFPP in exchange for the disclosure. If the deal falls thru, allow
property owners who had no reason to know of the contamination to
report and qualify as an innocent landowner with just continuing
obligation responsibilities. 2. CERCLA Disclosure Obligations
(separate from AAI since this would apply to sites with no imminent
transactions)- EPA issue guidance clarifying that section 103(c)
applies to historical contamination without the current reportable
quantity limitation. By informal guidance or policy, EPA can
announce a one-year amnesty period for existing property owners to
disclose contamination they have learned about without incurring
penalties for non-disclosure. Sort of like the EPA audit policy for
environmental violations. 3. Use Section 128 State Response Program
Authority- EPA use this authority to require states to satisfy
minimum requirements for their voluntary cleanup programs including
uniform reporting requirements across the country in exchange for
being eligible for the federal enforcement deferral. We have
delegated programs under RCRA, CWA and CAA that for the most part
operate well. No reason that brownfield programs that operate the
same way to promote consistency across the country. Barry and I
discussed have these ideas at Brownfield 2009. I believe we were
able to reach some common ground on #3 and perhaps the circumstances
when reporting of historical contamination might be appropriate with
the vehicle and precise circumstances remaining to be fleshed out.
Larry Law Offices Lawrence P. Schnapf, 55 E.87th Street #8B NY, NY
10128 212-756-2205 office 212-876-3189 home 203-263-5212 weekends Larry@schnapflaw.com
www.schnapflaw.com In a message dated 2/26/2010 10:41:22 A.M.
Eastern Standard Time, BTrilling@wiggin.com writes: I'm pleased that
Larry has focused his points on state and local legislation to
require transparency rather than on trying to impose a one-size fits
all standard on all brownfield transactions through changes in the
AAI regulation. Those of us who practice in this area can confirm
the old adage that "all real estate is local" and local needs and
concerns should govern. States such as Connecticut and Pennsylvania
require land owners and environmental consultants who discover site
conditions that constitute imminent endangerments to report them. In
CT, NJ, Ohio, and to a certain extent in other jurisdictions, state
law requires the transaction of a contaminated property to address,
characterize, and remediate the adverse conditions. In other states
that do not share these environmentally protective requirements it
would be useful and productive for their legislatures to consider
adopting such measures and for representatives of the real estate
development industry, municipalities, the lending industry,
environmental consultants/engineers, and environmental justice and
other community and environmental interest groups to participate in
vigorous discussions about what those programs should look like,
such as we are doing here... and such as our 25 member Advisory
Committee Act did in devising the current AAI regulation. As to when
transparency should apply: I suggest that transparency does not
comprise a virtue in itself, and that it should not be worshipped as
a shibboleth. Rather, it is a tool that can be useful or misused. A
magnifying glass helps bring clarity when things are obscure, but
shouldn't be held at such an angle to the document being examined
that it also intensifies the light source from the other side,
burning the document to be viewed. Let us consider this in the
context of property contamination discovered during a real estate
transaction. I start with the premise that it constitutes sound
public policy to encourage private cleanup of brownfield properties
rather than to use scarce public resources to do so. I limit the
premise to those instances where the private cleanup meets
regulatory standards. I would give no relief to cleanups that do not
meet such standards. Cleanups conducted under current state
voluntary remediation programs and those that qualify for protection
under the bona fide purchaser, contiguous landowner, and innocent
purchaser provisions of CERCLA provide adequate protection to the
environment and to the public by virtue of the liability protections
not applying unless the regulatory standard has been met. Having
achieved the standard will be a matter of public record. For those
entities that discover contaminated site conditions during the
diligence process, but do not start or complete the cleanup to
regulatory standards, a requirement to report imminent endangerments
to public health and the environment should arguably apply. To
require such disclosure outside that circumstance, however, would
disincentive both the owners of the properties from making them
available for sale and for the developers even to commence, let
alone complete, the site purchase and remediation process. Public
scrutiny of an essentially private transaction that does not pose an
imminent threat to the public or the environment is inconsistent
with any business transaction, and especially high-risk deals for
brownfield properties. This magnifying glass is more likely to burn
the object of examination than to clarify it. The solution to the
problem of failure to disclose conditions about which the community
should be aware consists of incentivizing discovery of those
conditions, providing liability relief to those who remedy the
conditions discovered, and vigorously punishing those who either
affirmatively misrepresent those conditions or falsely claim to have
corrected them. Barry J. Trilling W I G G I N A N D D A N A From: LSchnapf@aol.com
[mailto:LSchnapf@aol.com] Sent: Friday, February 26, 2010 1:35 AM
To: Paul@lqm.co.uk; Trilling, Barry; lsiegel@cpeo.org; brownfields@lists.cpeo.org
Subject: Re: [CPEO-BIF] [Fwd: EPA's March 17 listening session is
an opportunity] from I dont believe that the ancient doctrine of
caveat emptor should have a place in a modern society. It was more
appropriate for an agricultural society where there were not latent
defects like chemicals in groundwater or buried drums nor large
corporations with enormous bargaining power. That was my point in
bringing up UCC warranties, SEC disclosures and even new home
construction warranties. This approach has certainly humbled a giant
corporation like Toyota. But for the disclosure of the problems, it
would have business as usual. It was the disclosure that (dare I say
this) put the brakes to the problem. However, in response to my
esteemed friend, Barry, greater transparency is one of the key tools
being used in the green building movement. California is requiring
building owners to disclose results of energy audits as are many
cities such as New York. The idea is that the sunshine that is cast
on the previously hidden information will cause building owners to
improve their buildings or the market will punish them by devaluing
their properties.And let us not forget the proliferation of property
disclosure laws popping up in states for residential transactions. I
see no reason why this modern trend should not be applied to latent
environmental conditions. There is nothing so special about
environmental conditions that should warrant continuing to allow for
this antiquated practice of allowing property owners to keep secret
information they have about historic environmental information about
their properties. Mandatory disclosure will even the playing field
and not punish those whose aspirational goals cause them to be more
open than current required under law. There are also good reasons on
the other side of the ledger for promoting greater disclosure. Think
of all of the phase 1 and phase 2 reports that are done for a
property over the past 20 years. If this information was publicly
available, new potential purchasers or lenders could review this
information and use it to make more informed decisions if or where
to sample. Think of all the money that is wasted repeating work that
may have been done half a dozen times since the passage of laws like
CERCLA. So Barry, tag you're it :) Larry Law Offices Lawrence P.
Schnapf, 55 E.87th Street #8B NY, NY 10128 212-756-2205 office
212-876-3189 home 203-263-5212 weekends Larry@schnapflaw.com www.schnapflaw.com
In a message dated 2/25/2010 5:54:06 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, Paul@lqm.co.uk
writes: Dear all, from across the pond... the system we have here
in (olde) England is 'buyer beware' (caveat emptor). The principle
being however that if prospective purchaser asks vendor questions
then they must be answered truthfully and lying carries heavy
criminal penalties. The law society ha prepared a list of standard
questions it expects lawyers to ask during the buying process
(conveyancing is the term we use over here). Of course one can (and
I would) go beyond these standard questions, if one wants to. If
total protection of buyers is wanted (for both known and latent
defects) this can only be delivered by insurance or contractual
indemities or some combination. fnally thank you to all (and
especially Lenny) for a VERY informative forum! Paul Nathanail
University of Nottingham ________________________________________
From: brownfields-bounces@lists.cpeo.org [brownfields-bounces@lists.cpeo.org
] On Behalf Of Trilling, Barry [BTrilling@wiggin.com] Sent: 25
February 2010 21:06 To: lsiegel@cpeo.org; Brownfields Internet Forum
Subject: Re: [CPEO-BIF] [Fwd: EPA's March 17 listening session is an
opportunity] from Larry Schnapf Larry defines the problem,
apparently as he sees it with AAI, as a failure to require
information to be disclosed that "allows the bad people to gain
advantage over the people of good faith," and goes on to compare the
situation with a car manufacturer's duty to disclose defects to
purchasers, UCC express and implied protections, and SEC disclosure
obligations. Regrettably, his "disclosure" solution doesn't reach
the bad people and provides a disincentive for the people of good
faith to attempt to meet an important social, economic, and
environmental problem. AAI requires the person of good faith to make
efforts to discover environmental problems. The 2002 CERCLA
amendments also require the bona fide purchaser to take reasonable
steps to address the problems it discovers. It provides no shield
for either the bona fide purchaser or the property owner if either
attempts to conceal public endangerments. Larry, however, would
apparently impose an affirmative duty on any property owner who
becomes aware of a release or threatened release of a hazardous
substance on his or her property, regardless of its gravity or
imminence, and whether or not it is migrating or threatens to
migrate off the property to make public disclosure of that knowledge
and would also require the potential property purchaser to do so.
This is a recipe for a very bitter meal, providing even further
incentive for the "bad people" to cover up and take no measures do
discover their problems and making the ability of the people of good
faith who want to remediate properties and bring them back to
productive use almost impossible to achieve because of the potential
for the process of cleanup and development to be taken out of their
hands or made pragmatically or politically unachievable. The
analogies to protecting consumers from defective products and
investors from fraudulent deals just do not apply. Here the bona
fide purchaser, rather than the community, stands in the shoes of
the consumer or investor, and AAI requires it to take steps to
protect itself. The community stands to benefit when that BFP
remediates the property to meet regulatory standards. Drive away
that BFP and the likelihood of remediation dwindles, if it survives
at all. If the BFP fails to remediate, then stringent enforcement
should be the consequence. The problem, as I noted in my earlier
message consists in the failure of agencies to undertake adequate
enforcement and of the professional community to insist upon
adequate site characterization. As much as we want to protect the
public from exposure to hazardous substances, we won't get there by
ignoring the facts that get in the way of attractive and amusing,
yet inappropriate and inaccurate analogies. The issue is not that
real property is a sacrosanct concept. The issue is how best to
protect the public by getting sites cleaned up most efficiently,
safely, productively, and at the least cost to the public. A system
that encourages private sector entities to do so, as AAI does, makes
more sense than one that will drive good faith volunteers away from
the process. Barry J. Trilling W I G G I N A N D D A N A -----
Original Message----- From: brownfields-bounces@lists.cpeo.org [mailto:brownfields-bounces@lists.cpeo.org
] On Behalf Of Lenny Siegel Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2010 1:55
PM To: Brownfields Internet Forum Subject: Re: [CPEO-BIF] [Fwd:
EPA's March 17 listening session is an opportunity] from Larry
Schnapf From: LSchnapf@aol.com My dear friend Barry has such faith
in his fellow human beings. We have laws because people won't do the
right thing. I would submit that sadly the universe of people acting
in good faith is extremely small. The problem is not incompetent
consultants (and there are many) but perhaps because the owners,
buyers and lenders don't want to pay for what it would cost to do a
good investigation. But I believe the real problem continues to
remain that the information is not required to be disclosed in most
cases. In fact, that allows the bad people to gain advantage over
the people of good faith that Barry so passionately defends. And my
other question is what is so special about real estate that we
continue to have these archaic disclosure rules? Car manufacturers
can't force consumers to buy cars as is (except maybe Toyota--sorry
couldn't resist).The UCC contains all sorts of expressed and implied
protections. Public companies have vast disclosure obligations under
SEC regulations. We're no longer an agrarian society. It's a time
our real estate rules conform to the transparency expected in the
21st century--and that are necessary to protect the public. Lawrence
P. Schnapf, Esq. 55 E.87th Street #8B NY, NY 10128 212-756-2205
office 212-876-3189 home 203-263-5212 weekends www,environmental-
law.net Trilling, Barry wrote: > Lenny: > > I agree that this
listening session will be valuable, if for no other > reason than to
try to continue to clear the air with regard to your > insistence
that the AAI Rule is part of the problem. I'm afraid that > you and
Larry are using your considerable persuasive talents and access > to
decision makers to divert their attention from the real problems: >
first and foremost, is the failure of environmental agencies
(primarily > on the state level) to enforce the law against parties
that are abusing > the system. Second, but also important, is the
failure of the > environmental professional and legal communities to
convey the message > to their clientele about the importance of
strict adherence to both the > rule and the ASTM E1527-05. To impose
additional new restraints on > good-faith volunteers who need a more
level playing field to address > brownfield sites will discourage
private cleanup activity and leave the > burden on government to
take remedial action. This will result in more > time-consuming,
more expensive, less comprehensive, and less > economically
productive cleanup activity and will ill-serve the > constituents
you sincerely want to benefit. > > The AAI rule is not perfect-- my
experience in its operation so far > shows very inconsistent
observance of its dictates. Not surprisingly > there are still so-
called "environmental professionals" out there who do > not appear
to be meeting either the rule or the ASTM E1527-05 standard. > EPA
and professional organizations (both in the environmental >
engineering/consulting and legal communities) should be advising >
prospective purchasers about the importance of strict observance of
the > standards and the trade press should advise the community of
developers > and municipalities who rely on Phase I studies to
beware of "on the > cheap" assessments. A good example of a bad
result that I've seen on > more than one occasion recently is that
of the potential site purchaser > who wants to be eligible for the
bona fide purchaser defense hiring a > low-cost consultant (perhaps
at half the cost of a more conservative > professional) to conduct a
Phase I assessment that I've had to send back > after legal review
as insufficient. The additional legal fees expended > for my review
and comment usually amount to substantially more than the >
potential purchaser would have paid for a first-rate Phase I. >
Penny-Wise/Pound Foolish. And for those unwise enough to commission
a > budget assessment without legal review, the long term risk
includes much > more dire consequences, including exposure as a
CERCLA PRP. This is not > a problem that changing the AAI rules will
cure, however. > > I look forward to our discussions on March 17. >
Barry J. Trilling > W I G G I N A N D D A N A > > > -----Original
Message----- > From: brownfields-bounces@lists.cpeo.org > [mailto:brownfields-bounces@lists.cpeo.org
] On Behalf Of Lenny Siegel > Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2010 11:24
AM > To: Brownfields Internet Forum > Subject: [CPEO-BIF] EPA's
March 17 listening session is an opportunity > > U.S. EPA's
"Listening Session" on the All Appropriate Inquiries (AAI) > Rule,
governing non-intrusive environmental site assessments, is three >
weeks away. (9:30 a.m. to noon on March 17, 2010 at room 1153 of the
EPA > East Building at 1201 Constitution Ave. NW, Washington D.C). I
encourage > participants in the Brownfields Internet Forum, as well
as others, to > attend: to engage in what I hope will be the first
stage of a dialogue > to improve the EPA Rule, which was published
in the Federal Register on > November 1, 2005. > > I was a member of
the Negotiated Rulemaking Committee that developed the > Rule, and I
believe that it was a significant step forward. The > performance-
based approach that forms its core is a win-win solution > that now
helps to better identify potential environmental problems with >
only minimal increases in assessment costs. > > Nevertheless, except
in states where there are additional statutory > requirements, the
AAI process remains unsatisfactory in terms of public > notification
that a site assessment is being undertaken, public > involvement in
the collection of information, and public disclosure of > the
results. > > It is my hope that those elements of the Rule can be
improved, be it by > revision of the rule, federal legislation, or
state legislation and/or > regulation. I recognize that many well-
meaning participants in > Brownfields redevelopment view such
proposals as a threat to the entire > Brownfields process, likely to
kill deals that lead to additional > environmental protection. > > I
see the March 17 event as an opportunity to try to reach common >
ground, to bring the public into the process without "killing the
goose > that laid the golden egg." > > Before the Rule was
finalized, I prepared a "A Stakeholder's Guide to > 'All Appropriate
Inquiries,'" available at > http://www.cpeo.org/brownfields/
SGAAI.pdf. It describes the rule and > offers the following summary
of my concerns: > > "Unless the Phase One is being conducted in
compliance with another > environmental program, there is no
requirement to ask for public input, > or even to notify the public
that a site assessment is underway. > Furthermore, while the parties
conducting the Inquiries may conduct > sampling to meet the
assessment's performance objectives, sampling is > not required. > >
"These limitations are insignificant at most sites where there is no
or > little contamination. But at sites where it appears that human
health > and the environment are at serious risk, communities must
demand that > environmental regulatory agencies become actively
involved. > > "The Brownfields concept, which uses the demand for
property reuse to > promote the screening and remediation of
blighted properties, can > promote the protection of human health
and the environment. But unless > affected communities participate
directly in the oversight of > Brownfields activities, they risk the
likelihood that developers and > local agencies will simply sweep
environmental problems 'under the rug.' > The ... All Appropriate
Inquiries rule can be a tool to ensure that > environmental
protection accompanies property redevelopment, but this is > more
likely to happen if the public is part of the process." > > Lenny >
-- > > > Lenny Siegel > Executive Director, Center for Public
Environmental Oversight > a project of the Pacific Studies Center >
278-A Hope St., Mountain View, CA 94041 > Voice: 650/961-8918 or
650/969-1545 > Fax: 650/961-8918 > > > http://www.cpeo.org > > > >
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