From: | "Schnapf, Lawrence" <Lawrence.Schnapf@srz.com> |
Date: | Fri, 1 May 2009 12:20:37 -0700 (PDT) |
Reply: | cpeo-brownfields |
Subject: | [CPEO-BIF] Disclosure Obligations |
I appreciate and understand Bill's concerns. However, I think that if we change the rules so that disclosure is required of all owners or prospective purchasers who learn of contamination in exchange for liability relief, the marketplace will adjust. Some property owners/purchasers will disclose contamination they learn about out of an abundance of caution due to their risk tolerance or perhaps corporate philosophy. However, others may choose not disclose based on the RQ loophole. The current structure essentially promotes a moral hazard. In contrast, my proposal would level the playing field. If all owners/purchasers have the same obligations (i.e. disclose of contamination they learn about that exceeds applicable standards), I just don't see these sites being ignored because of the value that can be unlocked. The "animal spirits" will always prevail. I think it is only fair that in exchange for liability relief that a state and community learn about contamination. If the discloser qualifies for one of the landowner defenses, then the decision would be up to the state to pay for cleanup or pursue a responsible party. And, I continue to believe that such an obligation is not an "undue burden". The liability relief is the incentive to attact capital to contaminated sites. Disclosure to me seems to be a minimal burden when compared to liability relief. Finally, clearly there needs to be a difference between the kind of actions that a non-liable party should do to satisfy its "continuing obligations" and a full-fledged cleanup. Reasonable minds can differ and that could be an important detail to flesh out. I do not believe for one moment that this is an easy change. However, I think it would advance the goal we all have of expediting the cleanup of sites. I appreciate everyone's willingness to discuss and share their thoughts on this issue. This is the kind of discussion that the nation very much needs. Larry -----Original Message----- From: brownfields-bounces@lists.cpeo.org [mailto:brownfields-bounces@lists.cpeo.org] On Behalf Of Lenny Siegel Sent: Friday, May 01, 2009 2:15 PM To: Brownfields Internet Forum Subject: [CPEO-BIF] [Fwd: RE: Illinois proposal for disclosure of water contamination] From: Walsh, William <WALSHW@pepperlaw.com> I am torn over this proposal. If there was not a tendency to kill the messenger (given the broad liability laws), I might be less concerned. But if there is notice filed and the regulators go against the notifier, then no one is going develop these areas. The original thrust of brownfields was not to clean up Brownfields sites, but to separate new development from liability and allow the new developer to proceed with an economically beneficial endeavor. The price included some limited clean up to prevent exposure to the new users of the property. The discussion over the last few days, suggests that Larry and others think that somehow this will be a vehicle to require excavation and redisposal (if not treatment) of the historic wastes. My simple view is that if you want something beneficial such as a release from future liability for contamination that you did not cause, the process should require you to pay something, but not as much as the person who caused the contamination. I would divide simple property transfers from a true brownfields where there is a release of liability. If I purchase a property that has contamination onsite and I do not seek a release of liability, and I do not disclose, then I assume liability as a new owner. If I purchase the property and want a release of liability, then obviously, I must disclose. If one requires any purchaser to disclose groundwater or soil contamination, then no one will purchase. If one requires the current owner to disclose (and the current owner did not cause the contamination), then although the current owner may be legally liable, it is in fact punishing an innocent party. I know of no environmental program that requires monitoring by the original disposer to determine if there is a release. In most transactions, there is a phase 1 and if there is any reasonable evidence of contamination, the purchaser seeks and obtains an indemnification for that past contamination. So the bad actor remains liable. If either the original owner or purchase must report, why proceed. What I think you want is a system that encourages (i.e., provides incentives for) sampling and cleanup, without requiring a mind-boggling and very expensive set of studies that will at the end of the day say that the remedy required is what everyone thought was necessary after looking at it for a week. William J. 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