2019 CPEO Military List Archive

From: Christine Ziebold <c_ziebold@yahoo.com>
Date: Sun, 4 Aug 2019 10:21:39 -0700 (PDT)
Reply: cpeo-military
Subject: [CPEO-MEF] Manhattan Project and PFAS
 

Manhattan Project - 1939-1946 Enrichment of U235 using gaseous UF 6 (corrosive) Needed highly resistant coolants and solvents DuPont scientists recall PTFE properties Liquid fluorocarbons are used for the first time. After the war, technology was declassified and commercialization begins in 1949

(slide 5 on EPA region 4 presentation 2018)


Chemist Joseph H. Simons had passed raw fluorine through a carbon arc. The carbon-fluorine bonds he created were almost impossible to break. The first PFAS had been born and the material worked well on uranium.




Christine Ziebold







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  1. Re: PFAS: "Birds Are Living Proof That ?Forever Chemicals?
      Pollute Our Water Supplies" (Peter Strauss)
  2. CONTRACTORS: "DuPont says N.J. toxic mess caused by U.S.
      government ordering chemicals for WW1 and WW2" (Lenny Siegel)
  3. Re: PFAS: "Birds Are Living Proof That ?Forever Chemicals?
      Pollute Our Water Supplies" (Mindi Messmer)
  4. Re: PFAS: "Birds Are Living Proof That ?Forever Chemicals?
      Pollute Our Water Supplies" (Maria Powell (MEJO))


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Message: 1
Date: Fri, 2 Aug 2019 21:43:47 -0700
From: Peter Strauss <petestrauss1@comcast.net>
To: Lenny Siegel <lsiegel@cpeo.org>
Cc: Military Environmental Forum <military@lists.cpeo.org>
Subject: Re: [CPEO-MEF] PFAS: "Birds Are Living Proof That ?Forever
    Chemicals? Pollute Our Water Supplies"
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Does anyone know how PFAS were specifically linked to the Manhattan Project?
p

> On Jul 26, 2019, at 12:32 PM, Lenny Siegel <lsiegel@cpeo.org> wrote:
>
> Birds Are Living Proof That ?Forever Chemicals? Pollute Our Water Supplies
> Decades of studies show avian eggs and tissues are chock-full of widely used PFAS. Now officials are finally taking action for public health.
>
> By Purbita Saha
> Audubon Magazine
> Summer 2019
>
> Splotchy and olive-brown, with a slight sheen to its shell, a contaminated Herring Gull egg on Lake Erie?s shores looks the same as any other. But under its delicate surface lies a host of toxins that could disrupt the young bird?s life before it begins.
>
> Created from a byproduct of the Manhattan Project, per- and polyfluoroalkyl substances (PFAS) were engineered to be indestructible to water, oil, and heat. Today more than 4,000 forms can be found in products ranging from cooking pans and winter coats to burger wrappers and dental floss. For decades, however, these unregulated ?forever chemicals? have also infiltrated lakes, streams, and hundreds of urban drinking supplies. Their pervasiveness doesn?t bode well for organisms that rely on these waters.
>
> Fifty years of research has shown high PFAS levels amassed in the environment and food chain may increase the risk of developmental issues and cancers in fish, birds, and mammals?humans included. The compounds also funnel from mother to offspring, threatening infant survival.
>
> ?
>
> For the entire article, see
>
> --
>
> Lenny Siegel
> Executive Director
> Center for Public Environmental Oversight
> a project of the Pacific Studies Center
> P.O. Box 998, Mountain View, CA 94042
> Voice/Fax: 650/961-8918
>
> _______________________________________________
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Message: 2
Date: Sat, 3 Aug 2019 00:10:14 -0700
From: Lenny Siegel <lsiegel@cpeo.org>
To: Military Environmental Forum <military@lists.cpeo.org>
Subject: [CPEO-MEF] CONTRACTORS: "DuPont says N.J. toxic mess caused
    by U.S. government ordering chemicals for WW1 and WW2"
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DuPont says N.J. toxic mess caused by U.S. government ordering chemicals for WW1 and WW2


By Michael Sol Warren
NJ Advance Media
August 2, 2019

They only did it to help win the war. Well, both wars.

Facing major lawsuits filed by New Jersey, chemical giant DuPont is making the argument that its toxic legacy in the Garden State was created at the behest of Uncle Sam as part of war efforts in World War I and World War II.

In court filings, the company says the federal government ordered millions of pounds of chemicals to be produced at four sites across New Jersey during the two World Wars. Because that work was done under a federal contract, DuPont argues that it does not have liability in recent lawsuits filed against the company by New Jersey Attorney General Gurbir Grewal.



?

For the entire article, see

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Lenny Siegel
Executive Director
Center for Public Environmental Oversight
A project of the Pacific Studies Center
P.O. Box 998, Mountain View, CA 94042
Voice/Fax: 650-961-8918







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Message: 3
Date: Sat, 3 Aug 2019 07:02:51 -0400
From: Mindi Messmer <mmessmer@me.com>
To: Peter Strauss <petestrauss1@comcast.net>
Cc: Lenny Siegel <lsiegel@cpeo.org>, Military Environmental Forum
Subject: Re: [CPEO-MEF] PFAS: "Birds Are Living Proof That ?Forever
    Chemicals? Pollute Our Water Supplies"
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Yes Teflon.


Mindi Messmer, PG, CG

Former New Hampshire House of Representatives
State House, Health, Human Services & Elderly Affairs Committee

Mobile: 603.498.8847 | email: mmessmer@me.com


> On Aug 3, 2019, at 12:43 AM, Peter Strauss <petestrauss1@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> Does anyone know how PFAS were specifically linked to the Manhattan Project?
> p
>
>> On Jul 26, 2019, at 12:32 PM, Lenny Siegel <lsiegel@cpeo.org> wrote:
>>
>> Birds Are Living Proof That ?Forever Chemicals? Pollute Our Water Supplies
>> Decades of studies show avian eggs and tissues are chock-full of widely used PFAS. Now officials are finally taking action for public health.
>>
>> By Purbita Saha
>> Audubon Magazine
>> Summer 2019
>>
>> Splotchy and olive-brown, with a slight sheen to its shell, a contaminated Herring Gull egg on Lake Erie?s shores looks the same as any other. But under its delicate surface lies a host of toxins that could disrupt the young bird?s life before it begins.
>>
>> Created from a byproduct of the Manhattan Project, per- and polyfluoroalkyl substances (PFAS) were engineered to be indestructible to water, oil, and heat. Today more than 4,000 forms can be found in products ranging from cooking pans and winter coats to burger wrappers and dental floss. For decades, however, these unregulated ?forever chemicals? have also infiltrated lakes, streams, and hundreds of urban drinking supplies. Their pervasiveness doesn?t bode well for organisms that rely on these waters.
>>
>> Fifty years of research has shown high PFAS levels amassed in the environment and food chain may increase the risk of developmental issues and cancers in fish, birds, and mammals?humans included. The compounds also funnel from mother to offspring, threatening infant survival.
>>
>> ?
>>
>> For the entire article, see
>>
>> --
>>
>> Lenny Siegel
>> Executive Director
>> Center for Public Environmental Oversight
>> a project of the Pacific Studies Center
>> P.O. Box 998, Mountain View, CA 94042
>> Voice/Fax: 650/961-8918
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Military mailing list
>
> _______________________________________________
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Message: 4
Date: Sat, 3 Aug 2019 10:16:30 -0500
From: "Maria Powell (MEJO)" <mariapowell@mejo.us>
Subject: Re: [CPEO-MEF] PFAS: "Birds Are Living Proof That ?Forever
    Chemicals? Pollute Our Water Supplies"
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See the attached chapters from a book by Christopher Bryson called "The
Fluoride Deception."? Mr. Bryson's research on the use of fluoride and
fluoro-carbons (PFAS, though he calls them PFCs) in the Manhattan
Project is thorough and well-documented (his citations are extensive).
This was written in 2004, before widespread public or scientific
awareness about PFAS. I also attached the blurb from the book cover on
Mr. Bryson.

On 8/2/2019 11:43 PM, Peter Strauss wrote:
> Does anyone know how PFAS were specifically linked to the Manhattan Project?
> p
>
>> On Jul 26, 2019, at 12:32 PM, Lenny Siegel <lsiegel@cpeo.org> wrote:
>>
>> Birds Are Living Proof That ?Forever Chemicals? Pollute Our Water Supplies
>> Decades of studies show avian eggs and tissues are chock-full of widely used PFAS. Now officials are finally taking action for public health.
>>
>> By Purbita Saha
>> Audubon Magazine
>> Summer 2019
>>
>> Splotchy and olive-brown, with a slight sheen to its shell, a contaminated Herring Gull egg on Lake Erie?s shores looks the same as any other. But under its delicate surface lies a host of toxins that could disrupt the young bird?s life before it begins.
>>
>> Created from a byproduct of the Manhattan Project, per- and polyfluoroalkyl substances (PFAS) were engineered to be indestructible to water, oil, and heat. Today more than 4,000 forms can be found in products ranging from cooking pans and winter coats to burger wrappers and dental floss. For decades, however, these unregulated ?forever chemicals? have also infiltrated lakes, streams, and hundreds of urban drinking supplies. Their pervasiveness doesn?t bode well for organisms that rely on these waters.
>>
>> Fifty years of research has shown high PFAS levels amassed in the environment and food chain may increase the risk of developmental issues and cancers in fish, birds, and mammals?humans included. The compounds also funnel from mother to offspring, threatening infant survival.
>>
>> ?
>>
>> For the entire article, see
>>
>> --
>>
>> Lenny Siegel
>> Executive Director
>> Center for Public Environmental Oversight
>> a project of the Pacific Studies Center
>> P.O. Box 998, Mountain View, CA 94042
>> Voice/Fax: 650/961-8918
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Military mailing list
> _______________________________________________
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